[dark1p]

I'm not getting back into the debate here, for the simple reason that I just don't care that much. No kids, no grandkids...I do feel a degree of moral responsibility toward the future, but I'm not going to be here for it. Coldly and logically, it's just not my problem. It's for younger generations to deal with. This is a tremendous silver lining when it comes to getting old.

I did go to a video that Squirrel, I think it was, provided a link for on YouTube. The comments are worth a look, since it seems that this debate just goes on and on and on and on, with no "winning" possible. Without disparaging anyone's view, the entire issue has for many people become a matter of faith and belief. There's so much crap out there on both sides it's impossible to sort it out. With the rise of the internet, this has happened with practically every issue. Personally, I think a number of people are full-on loony and have constructed a belief system based on going down one fantastical rabbit hole after another, but whatever. The guise and structure of evidential reasoning has been applied to a lot of misinformation and bizarre conjecture, giving it the patina of "proof." It's simply everywhere now. You can find support for any position on any topic, and "know" that you're right.

I worked in advertising and marketing for almost 40 years, and always had an instinct for spotting b.s.--which was invaluable since I spent a chunk of that time writing about and positioning enterprise tech solutions I would never use nor fully understand. The bull radar got me through a lot of analysis of information and opinion that I just didn't have the knowledge base to judge otherwise. Clients who did trusted my work and treated me with respect, so maybe I got things right more than I didn't.

So I have my opinions about things, but I can't cite chapter and verse to support them. I've never worked that way. Mainly because, for me, I discovered a long time ago that my gut and my instincts were my best guide. And they tell me that in terms of our climate, something strange is going on and it's getting stranger. From my experience on the planet, when nature goes haywire there's usually a huge dollop of human blame and years of clueless and destructive behavior involved.

You can fight for doing something about the situation or fight against doing anything at all about it, and have all kinds of reasons and evidence for either. Somewhere way down the line, if you're lucky enough to become an old codger, you'll find out if you were right or not along with billions of other people. Good luck!