[Dave]

My suggestion to those who know progressives who can't contemplate voting R --- especially the dissatisfied Berners -- is to suggest persuasively that they cast protest votes for Jill Stein (Green Party nominee).

There are at least two really positive things that could come out of this election: the neocons take it on the chin, and we see a large anti establishment vote on the Democratic side. Either by Dems not turning out, or by voting for Stein. Trump is already delivering one wake up call, but he shouldn't be the only one. The Berners have more work to do.

Personally I think Stein (Green) and Johnson (Libertarian - my choice at the moment) end up pulling enough of the votes to push the decision to the congress - maybe that's the final drop of the markets in November when there is no outcome to the US election.

Probably end up somehow being bullish

And not to stir the pot too much... I tend to agree that several of Hillary's so called misdeeds have been blown out of proportion. In fact, the anti Hillary folk will find a conspiracy in what she eats for breakfast.

BUT, I do believe that she has done and gotten away with things that certainly would have landed you and I in jail. And she is also either the most forgetful old lady in politics next to Charlie Rangle, or a flat out liar. Pretty sure it's door number 2.

There was a post that stated that the poster believed that she couldn't have gotten away with all the stuff people claim that she's done because "no one's that smart".

I have one name in rebuttal to that - Meyer Lansky. Here's a guy who everyone and their brother knew was dirty, and yet he never got more than a slap on the wrist for some minor stuff. Look him up... interesting history. And then put on your tinfoil hat and look at the Arkansas connection with the mob if you really want to get conspiratorial But that was some time ago. No one acts like that anymore....

Imagine what you could get away with if you were at least as smart as he was and your husband was the former president.

I don't trust her. Although I have to admit, if the election does go to Congress, she's probably going to end up with the nod. Trump is too much of a loose cannon and one could go on for several more pages about his inability to be Prez.

Off the Soap box....