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I’m going to post a few things related to inconsistencies, concerns or other issues related to the 2020 election. I’d be curious to hear information others have found and general thoughts.

A couple of things 1st. 1) Election integrity is extremely important in a free democratic society. 2) Similar to the first point but slightly different, there is an additional level of importance and that is the prevailing views of the citizens in this free society regarding election integrity. The threshold is not that a majority believe there is election integrity but it is a threshold much lower than a simple majority that loose confidence in our system. If a more than a small group doubts the integrity of free elections it can cast enough doubt to compromise the public precipitation of the whole system. 3) If any level of real election fraud occurs it should be investigated and prosecuted. I’m not implying that any accusation no matter how credible must be investigated. 4) Just because your candidate lost does not mean every accusation of fraud must be endlessly investigated and just because your candidate won, maybe even by a large margin, it does not mean that we should discount or ignore real election fraud because it’s impact in the outcome was not material. The integrity of the system and citizens faith in the system is almost as important as the election fraud impact on the outcome. 5) The heighten level of polarization in society today makes the impact of even small amounts election fraud on the citizens trust in the system more meaningful than during times of less pronounced polarization. 6) With the heightened polarization also comes a heightened level of collective cognitive biases which will make it difficult for each side to compromise and do the right thing for the integrity of the system.

Okay here’s some of the areas I’ve found interesting:

1) Abuse of the mail-in-ballot process - Dead voters on the voter roles voting via mail-in-ballot (Michigan was easy to check but website recently crashed, I saw a list of close to 1,200 ballots that showed voters over 100 years old). People voting that had recently moved/relocated out of state. Abuse of voter roles that had no purged the madden names of newly married females. I’ve seen the most evidence of the dead vote.

One of the lists of dead Michigan Voters
https://twitter.com/DetmerMike/status/13...13666?s=20 (there are multiple lists, I've seen some with 1200 names included)

Here's the website where you can test their voting status in 2020
https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index

Unless there is another explanation like bad birthday information, this should be concerning to anyone. If this was legitimate fraud, could it be the tip of the proverbial ice berg? Even if this is not fraud it should be cleaned up at a minimum.

2) Abuse of federal election laws - Pennsylvania is probably the best example of this. The courts made a unilateral decision to extend the date absentee ballots would be accepted. There’s fairly good federal trial law established that seems to imply that this violates federal election law. Additionally, I’ve seen a lot of compelling arguments that the equal protection clause was violated in PA.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/12/pen...ks.twitter

3) Local election worker fraud or negligence - I've seen a number of claims regarding local election works doing things like running stacks of ballots through voting machines multiple times, workers discarding ballots for a particular candidate and other similar illegal activity. I doubt this was widespread enough or organized on a broader level than a couple of dispersed bad actors. However, if people break the law we should still investigate and prosecute. See the attached interview for a reasonable example of this type of activity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF12gZ_m...L&index=51


4) Electronic voting machines -

University Professor talking about hacking and vulnerabilities of voting machings
https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/10...sians.html

This twitter thread by Gummibear737 summarizes some very interesting findings from another twitter user, CodeMonkeyZ. CodeMonkeyZ found the user manual for Dominion voting machines. Some very interesting reading. Regardless of the ultimate verdict on 2020 voting fraud, everyone should read this thread.

https://twitter.com/gummibear737/status/...62125?s=20

Statement from Dominion Voting about the recent accusations
https://www.dominionvoting.com/
Notice the wording discussing the relations ship with Smartmatic, a questionable voting technology company with ties to Venezuela. They use the following "Dominion has no company ownership relationships with..." Just because they don't have an "ownership relationship" does seem to leave the door open to a contractual relationship.

See this interview of the Dominion CEO and his comments a in 2015 about a relationship with Smartmatic.
https://twitter.com/Andy5x5/status/13281...55936?s=20


5) Nefarious foreign actor attempting to influence electronic voting - I have not seen any evidence of this at this point. However, when discussing this with various people I'm surprised how many people completely discount this as a possibility. I remind them that we spent almost 3 years investigating Russia's involvement in the 2016 election. In 2016, Russia managed to use Facebook to post information that supposedly could have impacted voters. I imagine any foreign government would love to hack voting technology if they could. Also remember that we organize our voting systems on a state level and the approach and level of sophistication at the state level is probably not as rigorous to defend against a sophisticated nation state attack on their voting systems. Additionally, consider the volunteers, seasonal election works and other vulnerabilities with the variety of people that work at the state level during federal elections. When you consider these factors in conjunction with the vulnerabilities of the Dominion voting system.

6) Statistic analyses - I've seen a number of interesting statistical analyses regarding the vote by county across the country. Some of this analysis was reasonably good and some not so good. You can find a bunch of this posted on twitter if you search. Remember correlation does not always mean causation.

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2020/11...c.html?m=1

Finally, here's an article that I came across in my investigation from the BBC from 2016. Signs of election fraud.... Some similarities?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37243190

If you can change your mind, who is the“you” that changes the mind? If “you” are not your mind then what are you? Are you something more than you think you are?

Benevolent dictator political thread
https://www.deepwaveanalytics.com/forum/...p?tid=3656

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Politics and such - by Pretzel Logic - 06-19-2016, 08:19 PM
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