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(12-27-2022, 09:38 AM)Rob520 Wrote:  Some thoughts in the direction of big pharma/cdc/gov

"Considering that the mRNA xxx_cines do not work to prevent infection or to stop transmission of Covid, they certainly should not be called vaccines and evidently both Moderna and Pfizer now agree as their CEOs have recently referred to the injections as a "gene therapy".

Let's face reality, that is what they are in fact, although a very poor example of a good therapy since one normally prefers the therapy to be less dangerous than the injury. "


.. "certainly the description "therapy" is up for debate. I have used the term "gene alteration" as a way of being somewhat more precise."

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"Read this guy's thread. He is a John Hopkins geneticist and microbiologist involved in cancer research. He has been going off on them about the fake xxx-cines for a while. No holds barred type stuff, but the xxx-cine has caused problems within his own family (as it has in mine), despite his warnings to them prior to vaccination. https://twitter.com/DrJamesOlsson

.....we assume she has reasons

Italian tennis player Camila Giorgi amongst those under investigation for faking being jabbed to play in tournaments.
https://twitter.com/72powpow/status/1607233160332607488

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Top Thai Neurologist and WHO Expert Panel Member Warns of COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Link to Fatal Heart Problems
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12...-problems/

Shiver your the Scientist here, so please feel free to disagree...

Regarding,

"Considering that the mRNA xxx_cines do not work to prevent infection or to stop transmission of Covid, they certainly should not be called vaccines and evidently both Moderna and Pfizer now agree as their CEOs have recently referred to the injections as a "gene therapy".

3 comments:

 

1)  I think “gene therapy” is a terrible name. The vaccine is not injected in order to make changes in our genes. The a-holes gave the word “vaccine” a bad name by lying and covering up problems (instead of addressing them) - and are trying to talk around it, calling it “gene therapy” — which is a) an incorrect term, and b) will definitely scare the crap out of everyone.

Remember that no vaccine can stop any virus from entering the body and trying to multiply and establish itself. And, once there is a certain level of virus present - nothing can stop the virus from being exhaled - and getting inhaled by someone else.

It’s a probabilistic, dynamic process. Antibodies to the virus - when present - will make it more difficult - and less likely - for the virus to multiply and to survive. Those antibodies add to our natural defenses. The hope is that the disease will not be able to develop - and if it does, will remain mild.

Claims that a vaccine can stop dead a respiratory virus like Flu or CoViD are either due to ignorance - or are outright lies.

2)  Experimental fluid.

Gene therapy implies a therapeutic effect on genes.

Vaccine implies protection from infection by familiarizing the immune system with the pathogen.

Since what they are jabbing hasn't been shown to do either, I think experimental fluid is about all one can say about it.

3)  From Winn, who wrote original..
Actually, "gene therapy" may be appropriate. It is now surmised by many experts that the mRNA covid shots are causing changes to the DNA.

Secondly, antibodies are not good virus fighters. They are good bacteria fighters, but against viruses they fall woefully short. In the early 1990s I had several conversations with a research scientist (oncologist) at the NIH about anti-viral treatments. He chastised me for even suggesting that antibodies made much difference in the body's fight against viral infections and was quick to remind me that killer t-cells were the body's real defense against viruses. He told me that the only effective focus would be to slow or stop viral replication which would give the t-cells a chance to overcome the virus. This is still the prevailing wisdom and Rand Paul, who is himself a medical doctor (an eye surgeon-ophthalmologist) has challenged Fauci about this and Fauci has never been able to dispute it.

All of this has been known for over 30 years now. So, an effective treatment would begin with a good ionophore and zinc, which hinders replication. The fact that our pretend experts did not recommend this was a sign from the beginning that they had no intention of stopping infections from becoming serious. They actually sent people home and told them to do nothing until they could not breathe anymore, then took them to the hospital, gave them dangerous Remdesivir and then put them on a ventilator where many if not most of them died. I actually know someone this happened to and she was later told when they took her off the ventilator that she was the first person to survive that treatment at that particular hospital. (This was in late 2021). Everyone else had died. Likely from the treatment itself.

All of this seems incredible and difficult to believe, but it is what it is. After having seen this take place, I will never trust a medical professional again. My only edge in this was that I had followed the development of the science for several decades and knew from the start that the lies were coming out of the woodwork. Most people did not stand a chance and got pulled into believing the garbage. This includes many in my own family, and I might add some of them were medical doctors and nurses in my family who disregarded my advice.

My sister was a critical care nurse for over 30 years and she drank the kool-aid against my advice. She was of course, trained to trust Big Pharma. We have had no incidence of cardiac problems in either side of my family for generations. But now, since she took the vax and a booster, she is having cardiac problems so significant that her new cardiologist just told her a couple of weeks ago that she should prepare to die from it all. She now realizes that unfortunately, I was right all along.

Of course, I had Dr Yeadon and Dr Montagnier buttressing my previous conclusions and this made me more forceful in voicing them to others. They knew exactly was was coming and told the world but the evil charlatans cancelled them out.

It's an easy call as to what has occurred.
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