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(12-16-2012, 07:24 PM)arnie Wrote:  Dave, (and Others) with all respect, please re-read my threat... since I clearly state that I don't believe in an outright ban of guns, and therefore you probably need to rethink and rephrase your comments to my post.

That said, all the exact same violent movies, video games, websites, etc are also available in EU (e.g. Holland where I am from). Darn, we have some s$@t that makes US stuff look childish. However, there are very few shootings in Holland, because guns are illegal. So that "we are a more violent culture" argument doesn't hold up, because, in this case, Dutch are as violent and as exposed to the same violent media -and then some- as much as Americans are. Hence, given that everything else is thus equal it is (too easy) access to weapons that is thus the problem. Hence, I make the case and argument in my original post that gun access should be better restricted; but NOT made illegal. The latter, as I clearly stated, would make things even worse.

The argument that we "need" weapons to protect us from a possible tyrannical government is idealistically and philosophically nothing wrong with. Practically, however, I don't see what a little pistol will do against a whole army armed to the teeth. It is a self-serving and self-justifying argument because One would need a whole lot more fire power to make the case for self defense at that level. Hence, I don't see having a little popper "because the government may run amok" or "the commies will attack" can hold much ground either. In that case you'd need at least a tank for starters.





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First political thread - by Pretzel Logic - 12-15-2012, 06:28 PM
RE: First political thread - by Whip - 12-15-2012, 06:36 PM
RE: First political thread - by arnie - 12-15-2012, 10:16 PM
First political thread - by arnie - 12-15-2012, 08:18 PM
RE: First political thread - by Lapwolf - 12-16-2012, 01:23 AM
RE: First political thread - by Mkx41 - 12-16-2012, 02:27 PM
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RE: First political thread - by Dave - 12-16-2012, 04:39 PM
RE: First political thread - by jakeguzik - 12-16-2012, 04:51 PM
First political thread - by arnie - 12-16-2012, 07:24 PM
RE: First political thread - by frannybrd - 12-16-2012, 08:33 PM
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RE: First political thread - by Mkx41 - 12-16-2012, 08:15 PM
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RE: First political thread - by Mkx41 - 12-16-2012, 08:52 PM
RE: First political thread - by Pretzel Logic - 12-17-2012, 04:31 AM
RE: First political thread - by frannybrd - 12-16-2012, 08:31 PM
RE: First political thread - by Pretzel Logic - 12-18-2012, 08:22 PM
RE: First political thread - by frannybrd - 12-16-2012, 09:35 PM
RE: First political thread - by tonto - 12-16-2012, 10:05 PM
First political thread - by arnie - 12-16-2012, 11:34 PM
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RE: First political thread - by Lapwolf - 12-17-2012, 12:59 AM
First political thread - by arnie - 12-17-2012, 02:14 AM
RE: First political thread - by Lapwolf - 12-17-2012, 03:25 AM
RE: First political thread - by Mkx41 - 12-17-2012, 03:12 AM
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RE: First political thread - by Pretzel Logic - 12-18-2012, 03:44 AM
RE: First political thread - by arnie - 12-18-2012, 02:53 PM
RE: First political thread - by Pretzel Logic - 12-20-2012, 06:49 AM
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